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Delays in groups and friends this weekend  

Andrew 56M  
2381 posts
4/29/2006 7:13 pm

Last Read:
7/1/2007 10:39 am

Delays in groups and friends this weekend


You might have noticed that when you join
groups or add friends, they don't show up
for a few hours. This is due to some database
problems that we are working on. Turns out
that updating the databases with more info
in preparation of the updates next week is
too much for the 40 database servers. We are
currently upgrading the cluster with more
servers as well as trying to optimize some
software.

While this jepardizes launch on Tuesday, we
will be working all weekend to make as much
progress as possible.

MyHeartLost4U 59M
2487 posts
4/30/2006 3:00 am

I been a member here for close to 7 years and have seen many changes to this site over those years with upgrades and updates and they were always worth hanging in there for. So I am hanging in there again with patience.
Nick


qyxx 67F
3348 posts
4/30/2006 7:26 am

I too am glad that the groups are finally getting some attention. I am hanging in there also. Although it is frustrating at time, I realize that this is a monumental task.

Q.


themisskrissy 63F
2302 posts
4/30/2006 3:50 pm

how about a photo gallery for the differant groups? a place where the members can post appropriate pics for the topics..
i don't want a Network full of people just for my pics.. nor do i want explicit ones on my profile...
give something new to appease all the members that are leaving in disgust and frustration with Local Date!

Virtue Alone Ennobles


Andrew replies on 5/7/2006 11:16 am:
Yes, this is on the the 5/24 release schedule

Andrew 56M  
1250 posts
4/30/2006 3:58 pm

First phase of database improvements are done (just faster databases) - this will hopefully help us this week as we attempt upgrades. It's like changing tires on your car while you're driving down the highway at 80 mph.


kagey24 62F
393 posts
4/30/2006 5:52 pm

Andrew .. I am experiencing some major problems with the banning of members from my group !! For the second time I have banned a member for inappropriate behaviour .. they have complained about me .. and it seems that when they do .. my profile gets reported for abuse and then gets deleted !!!

Now today I come online ,, my profile is not only deleted ,, but my moderator status has been given to another member of my group ... Now I have reported all this info to your team .. I did manage to get my profile back up .. but now it seems to be a problem switching me back to the moderator !!

I started this group 5 months ago and already am # 4 in Ontario for most posts .. so the group is very active and it is generated money for this site .. as most of the members are only here for this group and spend their money for this site, we do deserve better service with what and how we handle our groups

Now a question ... Why cant the moderators have groups be flagged as valid members of this site and we dont get passed onto the abuse team !! I as the one who established this group .. HAVE the right to ban anyone who I feel is not playing by my rules !!!!!!!! Why does it feel like most moderators have no control of what goes on in their groups !!

Could I please get an answer to why this is happening ,, its very frustrating spending 2 hours on the phone trying to rectify this problem ,, that should never had occured in the first place !!!!

Thank you for listening to me rant !!!

Kissing is my kinda language
{=}

Toronto BBW


Andrew replies on 5/7/2006 11:17 am:
Has it been resolved? If not, email me or CS (tell them
to forward to Ali or Andrew).

MyHeartLost4U 59M
2487 posts
4/30/2006 6:39 pm

    Quoting Andrew:
    First phase of database improvements are done (just faster databases) - this will hopefully help us this week as we attempt upgrades. It's like changing tires on your car while you're driving down the highway at 80 mph.
That is good news. But I noticed on the Groups home page in most recent top discussions list that there are a few groups that are in French and Italian language. Is this something we should expect or was the databases merged together with another one?


Andrew replies on 5/7/2006 11:17 am:
They are all in the same database - just different
views of it - we'll see why some are misclassified.

MyHeartLost4U 59M
2487 posts
4/30/2006 8:38 pm

    Quoting themisskrissy:
    how about a photo gallery for the differant groups? a place where the members can post appropriate pics for the topics..
    i don't want a Network full of people just for my pics.. nor do i want explicit ones on my profile...
    give something new to appease all the members that are leaving in disgust and frustration with Local Date!
I believe what themisskrissy meant was one of the suggestions from many members of allowing members to be able to choose from their profile or network album an alternative photo for independent Groups they belong too, or an option of turning off their photo from being displayed in certain Groups. Many Groups do not allow members to join them if displaying nude photos, photos engaging in sex or masturbation.

It is a feature that many members would like to being added within the groups so the members can have freedom of expressing themselves in other groups that do permit members joining them with sexually explicit photos without having to leave a group or being banned from a group where the members prefer not seeing the sexually explicit photos of other members.

In my opinion this can be simply done if adding a page for members of groups to having their own individual group settings. The members photos are in a db and have been made linkable to being displayed outside the members profile as this your1dreamlover. All that would be needed is a few radio option buttons or check boxes and use of If, Then, Else, True, False, Visible, Enable, End If in the coding.

Example With 4 Options. Simplified Code use of VB for easy understanding of non programmers.

Option1= [Photo1 MemberHandle]
Option2= [Photo2 MemberHandle]
Option3= [Photo3 MemberHandle]
Option4= [Photo4 MemberHandle]

Option1.Enable=True 'Member Main Profile Photo Displayed'
If Option2.Enable=True Then
Option1.Enable=False 'Member Profile Photo2 Displayed'
If Option3.Enable=True Then
Option2.Enable=False 'Member Profile Photo3 Displayed'
If Option4.Enable=True Then
Option3.Enable=False 'Member Profile Photo4 Displayed'
End If
End If
End If
End Sub


TechSteve 56M

5/1/2006 6:01 am

    Quoting kagey24:
    Andrew .. I am experiencing some major problems with the banning of members from my group !! For the second time I have banned a member for inappropriate behaviour .. they have complained about me .. and it seems that when they do .. my profile gets reported for abuse and then gets deleted !!!

    Now today I come online ,, my profile is not only deleted ,, but my moderator status has been given to another member of my group ... Now I have reported all this info to your team .. I did manage to get my profile back up .. but now it seems to be a problem switching me back to the moderator !!

    I started this group 5 months ago and already am # 4 in Ontario for most posts .. so the group is very active and it is generated money for this site .. as most of the members are only here for this group and spend their money for this site, we do deserve better service with what and how we handle our groups

    Now a question ... Why cant the moderators have groups be flagged as valid members of this site and we dont get passed onto the abuse team !! I as the one who established this group .. HAVE the right to ban anyone who I feel is not playing by my rules !!!!!!!! Why does it feel like most moderators have no control of what goes on in their groups !!

    Could I please get an answer to why this is happening ,, its very frustrating spending 2 hours on the phone trying to rectify this problem ,, that should never had occured in the first place !!!!

    Thank you for listening to me rant !!!
I am an established member in Kagey24s group TORONTOBBW.

What she says here is the truth.

She has worked very hard to make this group one of the most active groups in CANADA. It is # 8 in all of CANADA in just 4 months. It will be top 5 in a few weeks. There is no spamming or drama on our board, unlike some boards. Our board is very friendly. Kagey24 doesnt rule with an iron fist.

I was a witness when this guy was in our group chat room. It is just sour grapes. He didnt like being ignored or given a no thanks. Most people would have taken a hint, said their goodbyes, and leave on their own, but he forced our mod to tell him that the ladies are annoyed with him DUH. Kagey24 is right. This shouldnt have happened. Next time you get a complaint, investigate it and ask for witnesses if it is a "he said she said" kind of thing.

As I have mentioned before, I look forward to the changes.

Thank you for keeping the people updated.

Steve


Andrew replies on 5/7/2006 11:18 am:
Thanks for the testimonial

themisskrissy 63F
2302 posts
5/1/2006 7:29 pm

Andrew and Your1DreamLover
"I believe what themisskrissy meant was one of the suggestions from many members of allowing members to be able to choose from their profile or network album an alternative photo for independent Groups they belong too, or an option of turning off their photo from being displayed in certain Groups"

That is not quite what i a have in mind.. i appreciate the effort tho
i would like to see group members given a place for 1-2? pictures appropriate for THAT group and may or may not be from the profile or friends network, but from another private collection.. maybe even have them rotate like on the top of the bloggers page..not specifically most actives, but of all who post pics... more exposure for the members..
it was suggested i post a body part in a parts specific group... but i will not use something like that on my profile..

thank you for your consideration

tmk


Virtue Alone Ennobles


Andrew replies on 5/7/2006 11:19 am:
thx

Rubens43hmm 62F

5/2/2006 3:48 am

Hi there.......just wanted to comment on the removal of a group I'm in - Toronto BBW - so not cool! kagey24 worked very hard to cultivate and build this group. Her dedication and hard work should not be wiped out when the group asks her to and supports her decision to ban one member. She is careful when that decision is made. The thinks about it and when she decides to do that it is because regular group members have told her of things that are not cool.

So please, review how this particular situation was handled. You should not remove the moderator but rather investigate first. Ask group regulars if you have to! But don't do that kind of thing. Most mods are trying their best to support and create a great space for people. I would request that you review how you handle banning members and how you react to moderators. Is not a good business decision - bottom line!

Thanks for your consideration.


Andrew replies on 5/7/2006 11:19 am:
let me know if still happening/etc

MyHeartLost4U 59M
2487 posts
5/2/2006 7:01 am

    Quoting themisskrissy:
    Andrew and Your1DreamLover
    "I believe what themisskrissy meant was one of the suggestions from many members of allowing members to be able to choose from their profile or network album an alternative photo for independent Groups they belong too, or an option of turning off their photo from being displayed in certain Groups"

    That is not quite what i a have in mind.. i appreciate the effort tho
    i would like to see group members given a place for 1-2? pictures appropriate for THAT group and may or may not be from the profile or friends network, but from another private collection.. maybe even have them rotate like on the top of the bloggers page..not specifically most actives, but of all who post pics... more exposure for the members..
    it was suggested i post a body part in a parts specific group... but i will not use something like that on my profile..

    thank you for your consideration

    tmk
MissKrissy, I apologize. I missread your posting and now see what you mean, if I am not mistaken you mean how Bloggers can customize a topical post in their blog to being allowed to be done in group topical postings too. I personally like that idea.

Nick


rm_respool2 78M

5/2/2006 9:55 am

Hi Andrew,

I just stumbled onto your blog after being steered here by another member through an email message.

My frustrations with the functional side of this site are pretty much the same as most of the other members.

I guess if I'm going to make a "formal complaint", it's the lack of any communication by Local Date management to the general membership of what is going on, what the progress is, and what is the expected completion date. Had I not been steered here, I wouldn't have a clue as to what updates are being pursued, etc.

I don't know how many of you moderators (or whatever the title is) have info on the updates/progress but it's a damn shame that the general membership is left unaware that some info is available, and how to find it. Let's face it, who would off the top of their head think to do a search on the term, Thoughts from the CEO.

Is there some way to get the info out to everyone?

I would think that in the name of good business practices that it would be in Local Date's best interest to give their members a heads up and let them know what is going on. (just my opinion!!)

Is it okay to post your handle and the blog title in the Advice Lines, etc., in hopes to help to get some info/status out to the general membership? (On the blog homepage, I did a text search on the title "Thoughts from the CEO" and it got me no-where.)


Andrew replies on 5/7/2006 12:36 pm:
Yes, I agree that we need to do better at communicating
things to members. I just rewrote the message center
notice tool today (it will put messages in the message
center to discuss new things and updates). Now I just
need to hire a PR person to help write them...

Thanks!

Shelly_Marie 51F

5/2/2006 7:43 pm

fall, I see that now...what is a filler post for, anyway? Is it just to get attention to the group??


themisskrissy 63F
2302 posts
5/2/2006 8:11 pm

blows a kiss to Nick.......

Virtue Alone Ennobles


Shelly_Marie 51F

5/3/2006 6:33 am

moon, there is another one called Nudist that is doing that too. This gives spam a new meaning...lol.


redlipsprincess
(Princess Lips)
59F

5/3/2006 11:02 am

some of my bloggers wanted you to have this..lol...

[post 332607]

feel free to use any or all...

TTFN


Andrew replies on 5/7/2006 12:47 pm:
nice....

cookie7823 53F

5/3/2006 9:55 pm

Question regarding Group posts:

Why are posts to group threads pre-reviewed in the first place? I understand that perhaps the initial post to establish the thread should be reviewed prior to post, but the mods end up deleting the bad posts anyway. I've seen a lot of crap in chat rooms and the person didn't get banned until the handle was reported for abuse. But, yet, someone who joins a group and is trying to say, "Hi, I'm new and I've enjoyed reading the posts to this group" (for example)has to wait hours or days for their post to even show up!

Is there a specific reason for that?


Andrew replies on 5/7/2006 12:47 pm:
Once new code is live, we can start working on express
lines for premium members (like we do in blogs)

Shelly_Marie 51F

5/5/2006 10:23 pm

wist, I dont know what they are doing...but I know after I get off work seems to be when everything slows down, and that is when I post the most...so i dont get to see replies to my posts until about 24 hours later.


irishtongue71 58M

5/7/2006 2:20 pm

I have a wish...a wish that my photo security would return to normal. You see...seems after some update was done everyone I had in a custom category called "Photo Swap Plus" reverted back to "General", and now I can't move them to any category at all.

Is something up with friend categories and will it be resolved soon?

IT


kagey24 62F
393 posts
5/8/2006 11:30 am

Andrew thank you very much for the contact names !! Yes my dear .. my issues have been solved ... with a big thank you going out to The Serious Minded Moderators !! They have helped me out so much with their knowledge and answers !!

I have also confirmed my ID so maybe that will help not getting my profile deleted as many times as it has !!

Once again thank you ... and keep up the great work .. I love this site !!!

Kissing is my kinda language
{=}

Toronto BBW


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